Comments on: Why they don’t ask questions http://cac.ophony.org/2007/04/30/why-they-dont-ask-questions/ Wed, 08 Feb 2012 11:00:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Yukiko http://cac.ophony.org/2007/04/30/why-they-dont-ask-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-14523 Yukiko Wed, 09 May 2007 15:32:47 +0000 http://cac.ophony.org/2007/04/30/why-they-dont-ask-questions/#comment-14523 Hi Agnieszka, I still remember when I received the shocking red piece of paper warning 'plagiarism is a crime!' on the first day of my study abroad in London. In Japan, you don't get educated with those formally (although everyone knows it's bad to make somebody else's writing seem like your own). Having said that, I agree with you that no matter where you are from, it can be a challenge to meet expectations of college-level work and academic integrity. I just had a long discussion with somebody from here who had a hard time trying to fully understand what's considered plagiarism and what's considered writing your ideas that happen to be the same as other people's. Hi Agnieszka,

I still remember when I received the shocking red piece of paper warning ‘plagiarism is a crime!’ on the first day of my study abroad in London. In Japan, you don’t get educated with those formally (although everyone knows it’s bad to make somebody else’s writing seem like your own).

Having said that, I agree with you that no matter where you are from, it can be a challenge to meet expectations of college-level work and academic integrity. I just had a long discussion with somebody from here who had a hard time trying to fully understand what’s considered plagiarism and what’s considered writing your ideas that happen to be the same as other people’s.

]]> By: Agnieszka http://cac.ophony.org/2007/04/30/why-they-dont-ask-questions/comment-page-1/#comment-14250 Agnieszka Tue, 01 May 2007 20:40:41 +0000 http://cac.ophony.org/2007/04/30/why-they-dont-ask-questions/#comment-14250 You bring up one of those issues that I often wonder about as well. The Symposium was a great venue to open up discussion on so many different topics, even if there was not enough time to come up with refined solutions or approaches, given its format. I met some great people throughout the day and we talked (formally and informally) about a million different tings. But the issue of cultural difference came up as well. One sentiment that I keep hearing is that international students tend to need some sort of introduction to academic integrity/plagiarism policies in the US, and they generally do not know about the standards in the US. I am suspicious of this statement and I have yet to see a convincing scientific/statistical/qualitative evidence for this. I think entering college students from Maine, Queens, Poland or Zimbabwe are just as lost when it comes to college expectations and they need equal amount of coaching and advisement. Sure, the standards for copyright protection might be a little lax in Eastern Europe, but in academia plagiarism is as frown upon as it is here. Yet, I keep hearing anecdotal evidence that somehow foreign students are not aware of how serious of an academic crime it is. Hmm. You bring up one of those issues that I often wonder about as well. The Symposium was a great venue to open up discussion on so many different topics, even if there was not enough time to come up with refined solutions or approaches, given its format. I met some great people throughout the day and we talked (formally and informally) about a million different tings. But the issue of cultural difference came up as well. One sentiment that I keep hearing is that international students tend to need some sort of introduction to academic integrity/plagiarism policies in the US, and they generally do not know about the standards in the US. I am suspicious of this statement and I have yet to see a convincing scientific/statistical/qualitative evidence for this. I think entering college students from Maine, Queens, Poland or Zimbabwe are just as lost when it comes to college expectations and they need equal amount of coaching and advisement. Sure, the standards for copyright protection might be a little lax in Eastern Europe, but in academia plagiarism is as frown upon as it is here. Yet, I keep hearing anecdotal evidence that somehow foreign students are not aware of how serious of an academic crime it is. Hmm.

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