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		<title>By: Lauren</title>
		<link>http://cac.ophony.org/2009/02/15/sociology-light/comment-page-1/#comment-37645</link>
		<dc:creator>Lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 15:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that journalistic accounts can be great in the classroom. I&#039;d add in Eric Schlosser&#039;s &quot;Fast Food Nation&quot; here as well. But at least Kozol, Ehrenreich, and Schlosser, unlike Gladwell, do their own research rather than merely poach others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that journalistic accounts can be great in the classroom. I&#8217;d add in Eric Schlosser&#8217;s &#8220;Fast Food Nation&#8221; here as well. But at least Kozol, Ehrenreich, and Schlosser, unlike Gladwell, do their own research rather than merely poach others.</p>
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		<title>By: Hillary</title>
		<link>http://cac.ophony.org/2009/02/15/sociology-light/comment-page-1/#comment-37637</link>
		<dc:creator>Hillary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 20:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Malcolm Gladwell in general is an interested phenom, and I&#039;ve only read his articles, never his books, so I&#039;m far from an authority. But a science journalist friend of mine is driven crazy by his books for precisely the reason that Lauren mentions-- he has a real knack for pillaging the ideas of others and repackaging them slickly enough to make good advertising copy. 


Outside of the specific case of Gladwell, you&#039;ve brought up some interesting questions about this kind of popular writing, which routinely relies on more &quot;academic&quot; source material, often with varying degrees of citation. I&#039;ve heard many-a story of scholars opening up the New Yorker to find that their latest book has seemingly &quot;inspired&quot; a long magazine piece. Or maybe it&#039;s all about trends; I&#039;m sure Gladwell has a theory for it, regardless!


Some of my favorite undergrad courses used &quot;popular&quot; texts to provide a certain kind of dimension to whatever we were studying; Jonathan Kozol&#039;s &quot;Amazing Grace,&quot; is a well-known example used often in Ed classes,  Ehrenreich&#039;s &quot;Nickel and Dimed&quot; comes to mind, too, or Nicole LeBlanc&#039;s &quot;Random Family.&quot; As Diana mentioned, they open up additional lines of discussion to talk about the role of the writer/observer in those studies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Malcolm Gladwell in general is an interested phenom, and I&#8217;ve only read his articles, never his books, so I&#8217;m far from an authority. But a science journalist friend of mine is driven crazy by his books for precisely the reason that Lauren mentions&#8211; he has a real knack for pillaging the ideas of others and repackaging them slickly enough to make good advertising copy. </p>
<p>Outside of the specific case of Gladwell, you&#8217;ve brought up some interesting questions about this kind of popular writing, which routinely relies on more &#8220;academic&#8221; source material, often with varying degrees of citation. I&#8217;ve heard many-a story of scholars opening up the New Yorker to find that their latest book has seemingly &#8220;inspired&#8221; a long magazine piece. Or maybe it&#8217;s all about trends; I&#8217;m sure Gladwell has a theory for it, regardless!</p>
<p>Some of my favorite undergrad courses used &#8220;popular&#8221; texts to provide a certain kind of dimension to whatever we were studying; Jonathan Kozol&#8217;s &#8220;Amazing Grace,&#8221; is a well-known example used often in Ed classes,  Ehrenreich&#8217;s &#8220;Nickel and Dimed&#8221; comes to mind, too, or Nicole LeBlanc&#8217;s &#8220;Random Family.&#8221; As Diana mentioned, they open up additional lines of discussion to talk about the role of the writer/observer in those studies.</p>
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		<title>By: Diana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 02:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know why I thought he was actually trained in sociology; I mean, I think I had it in my head that he was PhD.  Anyway, I agree that if I used him at all it would have to be in conjunction with primary sources.  

I&#039;m not sure I think his arguments are actually simplistic.  I think that he oversimplifies the material he presents as he condenses it and uses it for his own purposes, but the arguments themselves have complexity.  

In general, I&#039;m beginning to realize that I want to incorporate journalistic writings in some of my courses; it shows how certain issues are discussed in the &quot;real&quot; world.  I&#039;m using a journalistic account of a gang rape (Our Guys, by Bernard Lefkowitz) in a middle class suburb in my deviance class, and am hoping that students will approach this work from analytic perspectives explored throughout the course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know why I thought he was actually trained in sociology; I mean, I think I had it in my head that he was PhD.  Anyway, I agree that if I used him at all it would have to be in conjunction with primary sources.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure I think his arguments are actually simplistic.  I think that he oversimplifies the material he presents as he condenses it and uses it for his own purposes, but the arguments themselves have complexity.  </p>
<p>In general, I&#8217;m beginning to realize that I want to incorporate journalistic writings in some of my courses; it shows how certain issues are discussed in the &#8220;real&#8221; world.  I&#8217;m using a journalistic account of a gang rape (Our Guys, by Bernard Lefkowitz) in a middle class suburb in my deviance class, and am hoping that students will approach this work from analytic perspectives explored throughout the course.</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 15:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoops, there was supposed to be a &quot;strikethrough&quot; through the words &quot;rips off&quot;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoops, there was supposed to be a &#8220;strikethrough&#8221; through the words &#8220;rips off&#8221;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren</title>
		<link>http://cac.ophony.org/2009/02/15/sociology-light/comment-page-1/#comment-37618</link>
		<dc:creator>Lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 15:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think perhaps one chapter of Outliers may be useful in an intro sociology class (probably the one about hockey players and birthdates), as a way to flesh out structural explanations of success and debunk the myth of meritocracy. But I agree with Agnieszka--Gladwell started out as a science reporter, and he does a very good job at describing other people&#039;s research in a lively, riveting fashion. I&#039;d rather point my students directly to the primary sources, though. &lt;em&gt;Unequal Childhoods&lt;/em&gt; by Annette Lareau is a book Gladwell rips off cites extensively, that makes the same points he makes, but Lareau offers original research that should not be too difficult for undergraduates to &quot;get&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think perhaps one chapter of Outliers may be useful in an intro sociology class (probably the one about hockey players and birthdates), as a way to flesh out structural explanations of success and debunk the myth of meritocracy. But I agree with Agnieszka&#8211;Gladwell started out as a science reporter, and he does a very good job at describing other people&#8217;s research in a lively, riveting fashion. I&#8217;d rather point my students directly to the primary sources, though. <em>Unequal Childhoods</em> by Annette Lareau is a book Gladwell rips off cites extensively, that makes the same points he makes, but Lareau offers original research that should not be too difficult for undergraduates to &#8220;get&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Agnieszka Kajrukszto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Agnieszka Kajrukszto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 00:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree with using popular books and novels in teaching and I  think it greatly enhances learning experience. But Gladwell is hardly a sociologist. As far as I know he is a journalist and got an honorary Doctor of Letters degree. I find his arguments simplistic and his books should be on the pop-sociology shelf, but he doesn’t seem like a good exam of how to do scientific research in social sciences.  He sure knows how to convince others of his opinions, but they are just that: opinions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree with using popular books and novels in teaching and I  think it greatly enhances learning experience. But Gladwell is hardly a sociologist. As far as I know he is a journalist and got an honorary Doctor of Letters degree. I find his arguments simplistic and his books should be on the pop-sociology shelf, but he doesn’t seem like a good exam of how to do scientific research in social sciences.  He sure knows how to convince others of his opinions, but they are just that: opinions.</p>
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		<title>By: Szidonia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Szidonia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 19:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Diana, your post has really made me interested in this book, and I will definitely go ahead and check it out!
You asked for objections in your post, but I can only offer my support for using similar, reader-friendly textbooks in your course, especially if it is an introductory-level sociology class! I am not a big fan of jargon when it comes to getting my students interested in my field (i.e. literature, literary theory). Of course I want them to feel challenged intellectually, but I also want them to feel a sense of achievement while actually understanding what they are reading. Gradually, they can ease their way into heavier material.
I also think that a gifted writer and story-teller, like your Gladwell, can whet my students&#039; appetite for more, and more. In the course of the winter break, I read Barbara Tuchman&#039;s The Guns of August. She deliberately stayed away from the academia, and the book is a Pulitzer Prize winner. Not a real history book, and maybe I should have read it in my teens (had I been in the US then), yet it made me understand that if I had thought I knew some substantial things about WWI, I was wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Diana, your post has really made me interested in this book, and I will definitely go ahead and check it out!<br />
You asked for objections in your post, but I can only offer my support for using similar, reader-friendly textbooks in your course, especially if it is an introductory-level sociology class! I am not a big fan of jargon when it comes to getting my students interested in my field (i.e. literature, literary theory). Of course I want them to feel challenged intellectually, but I also want them to feel a sense of achievement while actually understanding what they are reading. Gradually, they can ease their way into heavier material.<br />
I also think that a gifted writer and story-teller, like your Gladwell, can whet my students&#8217; appetite for more, and more. In the course of the winter break, I read Barbara Tuchman&#8217;s The Guns of August. She deliberately stayed away from the academia, and the book is a Pulitzer Prize winner. Not a real history book, and maybe I should have read it in my teens (had I been in the US then), yet it made me understand that if I had thought I knew some substantial things about WWI, I was wrong.</p>
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