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	<title>Comments on: Facebook Owns You(r Original Content Produced On or Shared Through Their Tubes)</title>
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		<title>By: How to Hack Facebook</title>
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		<dc:creator>How to Hack Facebook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Aug 2010 20:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha I laughed so hard at the &#039;Facebook owns your stuff&#039; image. It&#039;s so true though, and so many people don&#039;t know it despite the hugh traffic that site has.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha I laughed so hard at the &#8216;Facebook owns your stuff&#8217; image. It&#8217;s so true though, and so many people don&#8217;t know it despite the hugh traffic that site has.</p>
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		<title>By: Renee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Renee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 07:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is pissing me off. Where are the 2010 guidelines; I can&#039;t find them anywhere on the web. Who owns what these beautiful artists share? Please tell me!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is pissing me off. Where are the 2010 guidelines; I can&#8217;t find them anywhere on the web. Who owns what these beautiful artists share? Please tell me!!</p>
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		<title>By: Luke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 14:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Update: in response to the complaints, Facebook has reverted to its old ToS as it tries to figure out how to move forward.  

&lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.facebook.com/blog.php?post=54746167130 rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Click to see Zuckerberg&#039;s post.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Update: in response to the complaints, Facebook has reverted to its old ToS as it tries to figure out how to move forward.  </p>
<p><a href="http://blog.facebook.com/blog.php?post=54746167130 rel="nofollow">Click to see Zuckerberg&#8217;s post.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Yukiko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yukiko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 05:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was a very informative post.
I was somewhat amused to learn about this because what is going on is awfully familiar with what happened about a year ago in the social networking site in Japan that I am a long-time member of (called mixi). They modified their ToS to make it sound like they claim ownership of everything we post and write in the site, people noticed and made a fuss, they promptly published a release to &#039;clarify&#039; (&#039;No, we do not claim ownership of written materials and images you upload!&#039;) but the sense of distrust towards them is still with us somewhat.

I have enjoyed many benefits of being part of such SNS (it help me reconnect with old friends and also meet with new great ones) and I think Facebook still continues to be a convenient for me to stay in touch with friends all over the world, but a situation like this is a good reminder for me that no matter what your &#039;privacy settings&#039; are, we want to watch out for yourself in our online activities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was a very informative post.<br />
I was somewhat amused to learn about this because what is going on is awfully familiar with what happened about a year ago in the social networking site in Japan that I am a long-time member of (called mixi). They modified their ToS to make it sound like they claim ownership of everything we post and write in the site, people noticed and made a fuss, they promptly published a release to &#8216;clarify&#8217; (&#8216;No, we do not claim ownership of written materials and images you upload!&#8217;) but the sense of distrust towards them is still with us somewhat.</p>
<p>I have enjoyed many benefits of being part of such SNS (it help me reconnect with old friends and also meet with new great ones) and I think Facebook still continues to be a convenient for me to stay in touch with friends all over the world, but a situation like this is a good reminder for me that no matter what your &#8216;privacy settings&#8217; are, we want to watch out for yourself in our online activities.</p>
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		<title>By: Agnieszka Kajrukszto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Agnieszka Kajrukszto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 04:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is how to watermark your pictures.

Windows Software
http://www.picture-shark.com/watermark_freeware_image_protect_gallery_download.htm
http://www.gimp.org/macintosh/


Mac Software
http://www.gimp.org/macintosh/


http://www.ehow.com/how_2176726_watermark-digital-art-using-gimp.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is how to watermark your pictures.</p>
<p>Windows Software<br />
<a href="http://www.picture-shark.com/watermark_freeware_image_protect_gallery_download.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.picture-shark.com/watermark_freeware_image_protect_gallery_download.htm</a><br />
<a href="http://www.gimp.org/macintosh/" rel="nofollow">http://www.gimp.org/macintosh/</a></p>
<p>Mac Software<br />
<a href="http://www.gimp.org/macintosh/" rel="nofollow">http://www.gimp.org/macintosh/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.ehow.com/how_2176726_watermark-digital-art-using-gimp.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ehow.com/how_2176726_watermark-digital-art-using-gimp.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Teleogistic / What the Facebook debacle says about sharing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teleogistic / What the Facebook debacle says about sharing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 18:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] old Terms of Service with the new. Luke over at Cac.ophony calls Zuckerberg&#8217;s response &#8220;totally inadequate&#8221;. I think I agree, but I want to take a closer look at the argument that Zuckerberg provides for the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] old Terms of Service with the new. Luke over at Cac.ophony calls Zuckerberg&#8217;s response &#8220;totally inadequate&#8221;. I think I agree, but I want to take a closer look at the argument that Zuckerberg provides for the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Luke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 17:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Wendy: good catch, and thanks for the clarification.  FB&#039;s privacy settings are a bit difficult to use and manage, but that does seem to grant you a certain level of protection.  So maybe my comment about kids photos was a little extreme (I only share images of my kid with friends).  I think the overarching objection still stands-- my image, my personal information, and, they assert, anything that was streamed through Facebook would be theirs to use for commercial purposes just by virute of my having an account.  Uncool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Wendy: good catch, and thanks for the clarification.  FB&#8217;s privacy settings are a bit difficult to use and manage, but that does seem to grant you a certain level of protection.  So maybe my comment about kids photos was a little extreme (I only share images of my kid with friends).  I think the overarching objection still stands&#8211; my image, my personal information, and, they assert, anything that was streamed through Facebook would be theirs to use for commercial purposes just by virute of my having an account.  Uncool.</p>
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		<title>By: Luke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 17:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Jim.  See, I&#039;m not sure I have a problem with FB using content it gathers about me through my use to tailor advertising (as was reported &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/mediatechnologyandtelecoms/4413483/Networking-site-cashes-in-on-friends.html&quot; title=&quot;FB Ads&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;) that appears in my sidebar.  I mean, it&#039;s creepy in the way that Google Ads are creepy.  But as long as I can rationalize some semblance of privacy, and as long as the ads aren&#039;t too intrusive, I can deal with it as the cost of using the service (is Twitter taking baby steps towards exploring something &lt;a href=&quot;http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/02/13/twitter-raises-35-million/?scp=4&amp;sq=twitter&amp;st=cse&quot; title=&quot;Twitter Ads&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;similar&lt;/a&gt;?).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But, the new ToS is an entirely different question altogether.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I know your point about users who &quot;don&#039;t understand the Internet&quot; is tongue in cheek; but FB is valuable to me precisely because it allows me to talk with people who aren&#039;t in fields or professions or lives that lead them to the cutting edge of communicative technology, or who have no desire or time to maintain multiple accounts across the webs.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And also, you know, to play Scrabble.  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Jim.  See, I&#8217;m not sure I have a problem with FB using content it gathers about me through my use to tailor advertising (as was reported <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/mediatechnologyandtelecoms/4413483/Networking-site-cashes-in-on-friends.html" title="FB Ads" rel="nofollow">here</a>) that appears in my sidebar.  I mean, it&#8217;s creepy in the way that Google Ads are creepy.  But as long as I can rationalize some semblance of privacy, and as long as the ads aren&#8217;t too intrusive, I can deal with it as the cost of using the service (is Twitter taking baby steps towards exploring something <a href="http://dealbook.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/02/13/twitter-raises-35-million/?scp=4&amp;sq=twitter&amp;st=cse" title="Twitter Ads" rel="nofollow">similar</a>?).</p>
<p>But, the new ToS is an entirely different question altogether.  </p>
<p>I know your point about users who &#8220;don&#8217;t understand the Internet&#8221; is tongue in cheek; but FB is valuable to me precisely because it allows me to talk with people who aren&#8217;t in fields or professions or lives that lead them to the cutting edge of communicative technology, or who have no desire or time to maintain multiple accounts across the webs.  </p>
<p>And also, you know, to play Scrabble.  </p>
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		<title>By: Wendy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wendy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 16:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Luke, what about this phrase:  &quot;(i) Post on or in connection with the Facebook Service or the promotion thereof&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt; subject only to your privacy settings&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&quot;?  If I have my Facebook settings set to only share stuff with my Friends, doesn&#039;t that override Facebook&#039;s right to use my material any old way they choose?  If not, can you explain why not?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Luke, what about this phrase:  &#8220;(i) Post on or in connection with the Facebook Service or the promotion thereof<strong><em> subject only to your privacy settings</em></strong>&#8220;?  If I have my Facebook settings set to only share stuff with my Friends, doesn&#8217;t that override Facebook&#8217;s right to use my material any old way they choose?  If not, can you explain why not?</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 16:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw this and was immediately thinking, hey wait, I run a feed of my activity in other places through Facebook.  Well, I killed that yesterday.  Thing is, I really don;t spend much time on Facebook, nd I really agree with Matt&#039;s point that it is their proprietary view of all their users content which makes the service so questionable in my mind.  That said, I connect with all the people who don;t undestand the internet there, so it is still valuable :) Just no more links to my work goes there anymore, and I imagine that service will prove---with steps like these---that it will be the first services to have 100s of milliosn of users that can&#039;t make a real buck off it.  Which I think is kinda funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw this and was immediately thinking, hey wait, I run a feed of my activity in other places through Facebook.  Well, I killed that yesterday.  Thing is, I really don;t spend much time on Facebook, nd I really agree with Matt&#8217;s point that it is their proprietary view of all their users content which makes the service so questionable in my mind.  That said, I connect with all the people who don;t undestand the internet there, so it is still valuable <img src='http://cac.ophony.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Just no more links to my work goes there anymore, and I imagine that service will prove&#8212;with steps like these&#8212;that it will be the first services to have 100s of milliosn of users that can&#8217;t make a real buck off it.  Which I think is kinda funny.</p>
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